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Because actually, he studied between 20 and 40 different variants of this same paradigm. Radiolab believes your ears are a portal to another world. So, you know, around this point, I just don't want to have anything to do with this guy. And says, "This is intolerable. What does it actually mean to be bad anyways? Yeah, I agree with that. ", Now you're saying actually that you could read that very dark fact as being actually evidence of something quite-, Well if you dressed up, and if you just had some minor variance to the paradigm you could, presumably, make this up. This is basically what Stanley Milgram set out to test. And Christensen, I dated her several times bef- three times- two times before. Especially because she found out he was leaving the next day to direct more gas attacks. Bonobos. There's a pause and my father just says-. Visit our website. You know, he does it without humility, without- without a lot of doubt. If the experiment- if the experiment had to be successful, it had to be carried on.". To feed about 30 million people. I'm not going to give you what you want. Would you really think that this guy's a good guy? I'm good. This is Radiolab. He brings her up as an example of a- of a woman that he actually had strong feelings for. He won't answer me or nothing. Okay, so what happened to David that night with his friend got him really curious about murder, and badness, and all these things we're thinking about. Transcript. You need to admit this. Well there's something distasteful about the fact that he was too into it, but I do think on some level, you have to divorce the man from his deeds, and you got to ask, "Is the world better with him or without him?" And one of the first acts that the Nazis do is to-, That says, "There shall be no Jews in the civil service. Our thanks to Ben Walker, whose podcast he has a podcast and it's a good one. Yeah. But over the entire ocean, there's a lot of gold dissolved into the sea. I thought about grabbing a knife quickly and stabbing him in the chest repeatedly until he was dead. Then suddenly the thought occurred to me that my life would be much happier without him in existence.". I do not stand alone. And Iago-, He refuses what we fully expect, and what everybody on stage, at that moment, fully expects from him. And then, he just trails off. On the other hand, if anyone could do it-. [inaudible 00:59:22] it's building up [inaudible 00:59:24]. They're not doing something because they have to, they're doing it because they think they ought to. Listen Infective Heredity. You're going to keep giving him what, 450 volts every shot now? He signs up immediately, sends a letter volunteering for duty. Y-P-R-E-S. Actually, the Americans called it Yeeps. Why did you take these women off the streets and want to destroy them? This is just a tsunami of evil that passes through the play. no one has ever said about a sex tape that I've ever you know. September 15, 2022 Radiolab for Kids and WNYC Studios present Terrestrials, a six-episode miniseries hosted by Lulu Miller (co-host of Radiolab . So, you see, it's just in that one experiment that 65% of people are willing to go all the way. He recruited a bunch of subjects. We'll be right back [inaudible 00:31:42], let's just finish this series. He actually was very humiliated that Germany had lost, and especially humiliated over the fact that they had to pay enormous war reparations to other countries. And then, in experiment number four, when the teacher has to hold the learner's hand down-. Enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. The time now is 08:36 hours. He would have each subject sit down at a table. There's something deeply, deeply wounding, stressing, upsetting a thought that he had anything to do with Zyklon B, but he did. Well I can use that same process-. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. And that tonnages then moves into our food source, our food source then moves into our bodies, and the rough statistics are that half of each of our bodies contains nitrogen from the Haber process. Accuracy and availability may vary. You're bad. The use of it, he couldn't have imagined. But this is why this is such an interesting guy, around the same time, officials in the U.S. government are calling him a war criminal. And that was a question that had haunted my father for decades. We ask deep questions and use investigative journalism to get the answers. The one that everybody knows, the so called baseline. Oft have I digged up dead men from their graves and sit them up right at the dear friend's door. Radiolab was created by Jad Abumrad and is produced by Soren Wheeler. You're going to keep giving what? I'm not going to go ahead with it. And I designed a little questionnaire where I simply asked the students, "Have you ever thought about killing someone?" And I was just astonished-. You know, I'm really proud of Job. What's the noble cause in this case? Well, have you ever been blackmailed the way this woman was being blackmailed? He figures out a way to take a lot of air that's filled with these little nitrogen bonds clinging to each other, and pump it with big iron tank. And later that night after the party Haber takes a bunch of sleeping pills 'cause he's asleep, um, and she takes his service revolver. And later that night, after party, Haber takes a bunch of sleeping pills, goes to sleep. James Shapiro, professor of English at Columbia University. You- I mean, I'm not suggesting one should, but I'm just saying there is a sense in which these people are prepared to do something that's very painful to them and to someone else because they want to promote science. Yes. It's all right. Well, there's something distasteful about the fact that he was too into it, but I do think on some level you have to divorce the man from his deeds. Visit rocketmortgage.com/radiolab. Check out the Casper or the Wave mattress providing supportive comfort for every body type. And it gets even more disturbing for my father as the conversation suddenly pivots to another victim. Been through this a lot of times before, and she's already told you she's in a hurry. He even schemes against his own wife. Check out the Blank Slate, a book by Steven Pinker, one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind. It was actually a crushing blow for- for him. This is sort of chilling comparison, which is a speed that Himmler gave to the SS, some SS leaders, when they were, uh, about to commit a range of atrocities. We thought that maybe as- as we turn a corner ourselves, we should refresh. Fritz Haber's a professor, small university. But every time the experimenter pulled out the fourth prod And this was confirmed when the experiment was redone in 2006; total disobedience. Yeah (laughs). You know, on the other hand, I mean, if you look at the grand calculus, people he's he-helped or fed versus people he's killed, I mean, he's got fed billions of people, I don't know that you could entirely call him bad. A lot of them were like, "This is not how you fight a war.". Any time the experimenter said, "You must continue" the shocker would say, "Hell no, I don't.". This is Jeff Jensen, and he's a reporter in LA. Uh, when- when asked how close she came to killing him, she estimated 60%. He could have never imagined that. They start disagreeing with each other. Those who could still breathe would turn blue. You can find out more information about all those guys on our website. But in all of these other scenarios, they don't. The fact that he kept on doing it over and over and over again was like, "Come on.". To him, he seemed calm and I left, and went home. There are hints of reasons. Well that's to [inaudible 00:19:32], just cut it out. Well, all right. Now, as we sort of know in life, lots of things that we do, if they worthwhile doing, and not always easy. I'm going to take a break. Okay, we're going off tape now. Jul 28, 2018 But he does it with a kind of, uh, amoral athleticism. Visit our website terms of use at www.wnyc.org for further information. But even with all that gore and horribleness, there was often a moment that people waited for; and in a way we wait for it still, even now. I think what it's doing is, uh, if you breathe it in, it sort of irritates your lungs to the extent that they sort of fills up with fluid so quickly that you sort of drown in your own phlegm. And that's what Shakespeare did in all of his plays. In a lab at Yale University with a bunch of regular Americans. Visit our website terms of use at www.wnyc.org for further information. I'm going to resign.". Just a little glimmer. I think they have to be extreme in the extreme. WNYC's Radiolab The Good Show Hosted by Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich Jan. 01, 2012 The standard view of evolution is that living things are shaped by cold-hearted competition. The questionnaires they filled out are part of the Milgram archive at Yale. If any sizeable fraction actually acted on their homicidal fantasies, the streets would be running- running red. It is a fair question to ask what are the conditions under which you or me or any of us could do-. You could say people were bat (beep) crazy. I'll go along with this.". And as he was in the kitchen, looking stupid, peeling the carrots to make salad, I came up to him laughingly, gently, so that he wouldn't suspect anything. Time's up. Accuracy and availability may vary. And one evening they were throwing a- a party. Next, we meet a man who scrambles our notions of good and evil: chemist Fritz Haber, who won a Nobel Prize in 1918around the same time officials in the US were calling him a war criminal. They will spare his son if he fessed up and tells them what they need to know. I would rather have scientists who carry doubt with them as they proceed. Literally disappeared for six months, and didn't tell anyone where she was because she was terrified that he was going to kill her. Then, we reconsider what Stanley Milgram's famous experiment really revealed about human nature (it's both better and worse than we thought). In the best of your memory, which word was matched with nice? I'll give you bad. Okay. Here it goes. The story of Job is that one day God and Satan were having a conversation. But that's not what he found. I was just astonished. And my father wasn't buying it. He takes a trip to Switzerland to a sanatorium. Because it's like we started with this experiment that we all see as evidence of humans' latent capacity for evil. Yeah. There's a lot of black and white thinking happening right now. That's radio producer Ben Walker, he'll be our guide for this segment. Now we don't actually know if he threw a party. And so, Gary starts going through this narrative of what he did to Carol. This next part's a little graphic. Pince-nez, okay. We want what Elizabethans got at the scaffold, which was a confession. And he says, "Can I come over and sleep on your couch? Test the outer edges of what you think you know, Copyright 2019 New York Public Radio. All rights reserved. And not to everybody's taste. So, you don't know. The- the leaves would just sort of shrivel and the grass was turning to the color of metal. 2012-06-22 . Just push the button that corresponds to the right word. The use of it, he couldn't have imagined. So, these are some word pairs. Then you're kind of done with them. So Jeff wrote this book because his father, Tom Jensen, was one of the lead detectives tracking Gary Ridgeway. So, I'm just going to go into this other room over here. Right. Now, of course, you could find some nitrogen out in the world. More information about Sloan at www.sloan.org. By this point, David moved on to a new university and he's teaching an introductory psychology class. In a rage, uh, how? Carries electric shocks. Then a few months later, he started calling me, trying to get back together, but I didn't want to. Then a few months later, he started calling me trying to get back together, but I didn't want to. They were gagging, they were choking. "Definitely yes.". Right. And to bring a few other of our storytellers in. Scattered One dead dad. His was the first generation when a young Jewish boy could truly imagine that he could just be a regular part of that society. It's a little bit more direct. Eventually Iago convinces Othello that his wife has been disloyal; which she hasn't. We take a look at one particular fantasy lurking behind these numbers, and wonder what this shadow world might tell us about ourselves and our neighbors. Maybe it's all about doubt in the end. This is Radiolab, and today we're going to get back, so to speak. No 'cause if you couldn't afford a ticket for a play, you'd seen all the plays, in the 1500s you could always go to a public hanging. No. My name's Benjamin Walker and here are some RadioLab credits. We just got to get ov- get out of it where-. They reach back to the shelf and they find this zyklon stuff. When we asked how close she came to killing him, she estimated 60 percent. 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